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Archiegirl |
43. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 24 2009, 5:43 PM EDT
I believe that Fishburne works for the Langston character, it's just that Langston doesn't work as well with the original cast as someone with a different personality might have. I think they need someone who has a brighter personality who is more team friendly. Variety is essential for a better world, that is indeed true
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Desertwind |
44. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 25 2009, 7:33 PM EDT
I feel the opposite, he's great with the team members, and they all admire him and look to his expertise, he's calm cool and collected, a nice change for the team. CSI has changed, but to me it's fresh and new and he's a great addition glad they choose him. I really look forward to the crossover with him and Horation and Mac~
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Archiegirl |
45. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 25 2009, 8:33 PM EDT
I apologize if I sound mean, but I think that he just doesn't fit in as well with the team. That might just be me feeling very moody that we very quickly lost three regulars, and also the fact that they seem to be trying to make him replace Grissom, who we should all know is irreplaceable. They seem to admire him too much, and although he is only CSI 2 he is taking over the cases and making the others seem dumb, by making him work everything out when the CSI's are more experienced and capable. I think CSI, although indeed fresh and new, is a lot darker, and they really need to make it lighter. I would enjoy the show more if they slowed down a little and maybe worked on character development, maybe we could learn more about the lab rats, as we still know very little about them despite them being on our screens as long as the CSI's.Is Ray going to visit NY and Miami for the crossovers? Because if he is then they surely should have a more experienced CSI go along with him, otherwise it will just be so unrealistic to send the newest member by himself. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
csibutterfly |
46. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 25 2009, 8:36 PM EDT
I would have rather seen an entirely different character with a different background, something that would've been completely different from Grissom, and with a different personality. But I think even the Langston character could have worked with an actor that could've interpreted and portrayed the character in a warmer, more approachable manner. I cannot find anything in Fishburne's portrayal to even attempt to draw me to his character. He's just there and when he does make an impression on me, it's because he spews like a domineering know-it-all.
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47. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 25 2009, 10:21 PM EDT
I was the most resistant and hesitant about him , [I loved Grissom/Billy] although I knew his great acting abilities, I couldn't see him on CSI for sour grapes. And did a complete 100 degree turn about the first time in saw him in "19 Down" was shocked at my own self. I love his whole persona. He's got his own brand of charm and I like his soft-spoken personailty and how the team does in fact like him too, that's apparent. I find absoutely no faults at all with him and am enamored by him. He's a keeper to me~CSI has changed with 3 gone but one returned, maybe Billy will too, however LF/Dr. Langston is now a full-fledged CSI good job!
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Archiegirl |
48. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 25 2009, 10:46 PM EDT
Yes he is a CSI 2, but if you all remember back to his first day as a CSI he screwed up majorly, then was suddenly like a master of the CSI art the next episode, which to me is far too sudden and it didn't run smoothly like story lines should. I agree that his character is rather bland; it's like Grissom without the awesome quirkiness that makes him unique. Ray is the sort of person I'd pass on the street and forgwt immediately, I just don't see his charm, at all. I'm sorry if i anger anyone, this is just my view on himBy the way, I looked him up on an official website (don't ask me the name it was a while ago) and he was number 7 on the 'people that have to be killed off' list, i swear this is true. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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csibutterfly |
49. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 25 2009, 11:41 PM EDT
"...it's like Grissom without the awesome quirkiness that makes him unique. Ray is the sort of person I'd pass on the street and forgwt immediately, I just don't see his charm, at all..."I 100% agree. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
msbettyd56 |
50. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 8:53 AM EDT
i agree totally. The only one of the old cast who seems to be doing any crime solving is Nick. Other TV shows have had characters leave and been replaced without taking over the show.
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Archiegirl |
51. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 12:29 PM EDT
Totally agree, Catherine doesn't seem to be doing much despite being the new supervisor, while the lovely Greg seems to have completely disappeared, showing up for about 3 minutes on each episode. Even Hodges seems to be getting more screen time than them and while I do like his character it seems quite unbalanced. They say that Season's 10 theme is family. If they really want to go along with that, bring back Grissom as well as Sara, focus more on the original cast instead of just the newbie. I'd love to see more of the lab rats too (one in particular, you can all guess who.) as the only episodes focused on them have been for comic relief, and I think their roles should be taken more seriously. Alas, usually my views mean very little in this great world of ours 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Desertwind |
52. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 6:49 PM EDT
Well apparently the 15,837 fans who watched the "Coup de Grace" ep. aren't amonst some of you. I haven't found one person that I know that doesn't like him immensely, and finds no fault with hm. [I'm in sales] and no one has said one negative thing on his performance they all think he's great~ He was hired by the writers and they seemed to know what they were doing. And on "getting Billy back" that would be up to him if he wants to or not, He left to go back to Chicago and maybe he will return and on Cath I'm sick and tired of her, I enjoy seeing Ray instead of her always pushing her boobs in the camera and flipping her hair back... gag me. The show is different and I for one and all the others before mentioned like LF~ here's an article with Anthony Zuiker about Billy returning. it's the last questionhttp://jam.canoe.ca/Television/TV_Shows/C/CSI/2009/10/19/11453701-ca.html# 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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csibutterfly |
53. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 7:59 PM EDT
"Well apparently the 15,837 fans who watched the "Coup de Grace" ep. aren't amonst some of you. I haven't found one person that I know that doesn't like him immensely, and finds no fault with hm. [I'm in sales] and no one has said one negative thing on his performance they all think he's great~ He was hired by the writers and they seemed to know what they were doing. And on "getting Billy back" that would be up to him if he wants to or not, He left to go back to Chicago and maybe he will return and on Cath I'm sick and tired of her, I enjoy seeing Ray instead of her always pushing her boobs in the camera and flipping her hair back... gag me. The show is different and I for one and all the others before mentioned like LF~ here's an article with Anthony Zuiker about Billy returning. it's the last questionI haven't found one person who does like him. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Desertwind |
54. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 8:41 PM EDT
WELL, again we're a small fan base and when a show pulls in over 15 mill. that's what their going by, actually the people I've spoken with ARE NOT on any fan site, but do watch CSI, it's only on fan-sites that I've that I've read negative remarks pertaining to him~ that's not the big picture so to speak!
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csibutterfly |
55. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 9:33 PM EDT
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"WELL, again we're a small fan base and when a show pulls in over 15 mill. that's what their going by, actually the people I've spoken with ARE NOT on any fan site, but do watch CSI, it's only on fan-sites that I've that I've read negative remarks pertaining to him~ that's not the big picture so to speak!"I'm not talking about fan sites. Fan sites are the only place where I have heard any positive about Fishburne. I'm talking about people at work, places where I volunteer, hang out, etc. Of those 15 million people, exactly what are the percentages of those people who like or dislike or have no opinion Fishburne? Not all 15 million like him. CSI had a large, loyal fan base who are willing to stick by CSI as long as it doesn't go to far off base. To say that just because people are still watching means that they do like Fishburne is an assumption and not fact. If the number of viewers had increased, then I might say there may be some correlation to Fishburne's presence. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Archiegirl |
56. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 9:33 PM EDT
While me and many of my friends are anti-Ray, there are a few people I know who like him, so the response to his part in the show is greatly varied, though there does seem to be more negative comments online than anywhere else. I think die-hard fans who have watched CSI since the start disapprove of him more, while relatively new fans, or Fisburne admirers, enjoy his part. I think that comment about Catherine was a bit rude, while she may not be one of my favourites I do know that she doesn't act in that slutty way that you portrayed her. Instead of Langston for the new CSI I would have preferred a girl, because in season 10, if you include Sara and the lab rats, the male/female ratio was about 10:4, which I think is severely unbalanced 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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csibutterfly |
57. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 26 2009, 10:08 PM EDT
One reason more negative comments may be seen online is that the producers have less control over the web than any other media.
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58. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 27 2009, 6:49 AM EDT
hmm...speaking of expertise...The scriptwriters should really look into that.He didn't have the time to learn the basics let alone be an expert.I mean,why Greg waited for a season to be trained and still was considered as the inexperienced guy ??? 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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59. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 27 2009, 6:54 AM EDT
"WELL, again we're a small fan base and when a show pulls in over 15 mill. that's what their going by, actually the people I've spoken with ARE NOT on any fan site, but do watch CSI, it's only on fan-sites that I've that I've read negative remarks pertaining to him~ that's not the big picture so to speak!"Give me a break! Fishburne is a bland, boring, less-than-talented actor who hasn't fit in with this cast in this show for half a minute! And truthfully, whenever a CSI episode is mentioned at work or at lunch or wherever...around NORMAL people...the only character I hear mentioned is Nick Stokes and the only actor praised is George Eads. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Archiegirl |
60. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 27 2009, 12:59 PM EDT
"The scriptwriters should really look into that.He didn't have the time to learn the basics let alone be an expert.I mean,why Greg waited for a season to be trained and still was considered as the inexperienced guy ???"I completely agree. Greg is my second fave character, and I think it's unfair that he had to wait two years before getting his first solo case (And I do believe that was Fannysmackin' *shudders*) then he had to wait another two years before becoming level 3, then they seemed to completely forget about him. I think it's impossible to learn all of the CSI expertise in just one or two episodes, and then he was promoted after half a season, which is far too short to be believable. If this continues then the show will quickly go downhill. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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61. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 28 2009, 1:52 PM EDT
Just because his character comes from a medical background, doesn't make him an expert CSI over night, no matter how good he is at passing exams.. Experience comes over time, years not months or weeks. And why can't they have a female top the cast list for a change instead of a male.
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62. RE: FISHBURNE???
Oct 28 2009, 2:44 PM EDT
I just thought that the writers might be making him a level two just so they can give Catherine a storyline later when her managerial skills come into question,perhaps Greg waited so long because Grissom was testing him poperly but Catherine isn't been though enough on Ray and is reccomending him for promotions too early
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